Web Analytics for B2B Lead Generation
In the complex sale, the length of the buying cycle makes the connection between on-the-web activity and the off-line decision to purchase much more difficult to trace. So the challenge is connecting our website data (analytics), with marketing data (inquiries and leads) with the sales process and revenue (closing the loop).
I came across Manoj Jasra post, "B2B Web Analytics: Deeper Dive - Web Analytics World" and thought it was relevant to share.
Jasra writes, "in order to be successful in a B2B world, marketers require a strong understanding in regards to their potential customers. Things such as lead qualification, targeting in the sales cycle, and testing content/collateral are all areas where analysts can push the envelope in order to provide more insight for their marketing team."
Jasra's post outlines four key analytic areas which include: quality of leads, sales cycle, optimizing your content (for SEO and conversion) and conversion rates and funnels.
Here are some posts that give more suggestions on analytics.
Related posts:
Tracking ROI From Web Generated Leads
Improve your online lead generation measurement
I still think there is a lot of improvement that needs to be made in this area. Are you satisfied with your ability to track your online lead generation ROI? If so, what's been working for you?
May 2, 2008 | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack
How to Select and Optimize Outsourced Teleprospecting Redux
If you're too busy to listen to my podcast or simply prefer to reading over listening, Sridhar Ramanathan, whom I interviewed on how to select and optimize outsourced teleprospecting partnerships, posted his the talking points on his blog.
Pacifica Group: Part II: How to Select and Optimize Outsourced Teleprospecting
May 2, 2008 | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack
ITSMA: Elevating Demand in a Crowded World
Generating demand has become a top priority for most companies in today’s slower environment. The most successful programs are much more targeted than in past years and favor quality over quantity.
You're invited to join me at ITSMA's (IT Services Marketing Association) upcoming Marketing Leadership Forum May 6-7, 2008 in La Jolla, CA. I’ll be giving a keynote on “The Playbook for Effective Lead Management” and I'm looking forward to meeting the other speakers.
Please note is there is a fee for this event. ITSMA has extended a their member rate discount to B2B Lead Generation Blog readers. To register this way, select “My Company is an ITSMA Member,” and in the Comments field enter “Brian Carroll Offer.” Register here
They have a great line up of speakers including:
- John Aiello, CEO, SAVO
- Brian Bakstran, SVP, Field Marketing, North America, CA
- Paul Dunay, Global Director, Integrated Marketing, BearingPoint
- Janis Fratamico, Director, Marketing, Global Business Services – Americas, IBM
- Ajit Maira, Senior Vice President, ITSMA
- Julie Meyers, Vice President, Global Marketing, Xerox Global Services
- Jean Ostvoll, Global Marketing Director, Products, Accenture
April 30, 2008 | Permalink | Comments (2) | TrackBack
Podcast: How to Optimize Teleprospecting Vendors
More companies than ever are using third party providers for teleprospecting and lead management operations, however there is little information on how to select, engage, and measure these vendors who will add that essential human touch.
I just interviewed Sridhar Ramanathan, President of Pacifica Group, on how to evaluate and optimize outsourced teleprospecting partnerships (aka inside sales, telesales, telemarketing).
Sridhar is an industry thought leader in marketing and former HP executive that grew HP's Managed Services unit to $1B in revenue. He has spent that last seven years advising his clients at Pacifica group on how to implement successful marketing strategies that increase revenue.
If you are involved in lead generation for a complex sale, this podcast offers practical information you won't want to miss.
During the interview you will hear Sridhar discuss:
- Why his client's decide to outsource
- What to have ready before engaging a firm
- The criteria companies should use when hiring a firm
- Success metrics used to evaluate effectiveness
- Pitfalls to avoid in a partnership
- Co-sourcing or Outsourcing?
- Best practices that make teleprospecting partnerships very effective

Listen to podcast now (27 minutes MP3 9.58 MB)
Podcast: How to Select and Optimize Teleprospecting Partnerships
April 16, 2008 | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack
Lead management software becoming a hot topic
What do you do with leads or inquires once you generate them?
This basic question is overlooked by so many and yet it’s the leading cause of failure in what would otherwise be effective lead generation programs.
The common-sense answer to this challenge is easier said than done: Have your best people respond to them quickly and consistently in order to qualify them into sales ready leads. The ones that aren’t qualified yet (but are a fit) you put into a lead nurturing process.
The need to better manage leads and inquires has given rise to a slew of new software companies offering a variety of lead management or marketing automation solutions.
An interesting conversation was started recently by Laura Ramos on the Forrester Marketing blog about lead management software. I’m really glad to see an analyst giving their opinion and I look forward to more insights. Ramos’ post, “B2B Lead Management Market Heats Up,” is definitely worth checking out.
According to Ramos, there are four primary buckets of technology solutions aimed at solving the “how do I make lead generation activities more effective?” They are:
- Web analytics
- Database services
- Marketing automation
- “Pure play” lead management
With that said, I think it is important to realize that lead management software and marketing automation tools are only one part of an effective process. Here's what I've learned...
Software will not spontaneously generate collaboration between sales and marketing, nor will it create solutions that match your processes and it certainly will not generate sales-ready leads on it’s own. However, for many the allure of easy execution and fast results are difficult to resist. It’s easy to overlook that these systems require a great deal of hands on input and maintenance to be fully appreciated.
My company has spent well over a million dollars and almost ten years to develop our lead management software system that we use as part of our services and we’re learning what works (and what doesn’t) everyday through testing and trial and error. That said, I can say that developing a good process takes more time than you think and developing people to execute the process consistently is even more difficult.
I regularly encounter organizations that invest in expensive software before they fully understand the fundamental operational processes that it will be supporting. This was and still is true of CRM and SFA systems. Lead management software has turned out to be no different. If you want to fully leverage your lead management software, you’ll first need to develop operational discipline and focus on good execution.
Start by understanding your lead generation requirements and design a suitable process to support it and insert the software into the process where it will be most effective and actually used. Most importantly, don’t under estimate the need for a dedicated team of people that will drive the process and make the inputs into the system.
Begin by mapping out a clear process. At InTouch we use process flow and data diagrams to collaborate with clients when designing lead management programs. Make sure you involve and collaborate with everyone who will be part of the process. Their buy-in will be key to the programs success. Then identify if there are still any gaps in staffing. Finally, once people and process are mapped out, select the tools or systems that will help your people efficiently manage the process.
Lead management is the bridge between sales and marketing that connects the beginning and middle of the customer acquisition process. It requires engaged people to execute the right process, which is then supported by the right software.
April 7, 2008 | Permalink | Comments (6) | TrackBack
Podcast: A new role for sales as expert content filters
I just had a great interview with Robin Carey, co-founder of the Customer Collective.
Salespeople have become the second choice for information among buyers who'd rather just go to the Internet. This trend actually creates an opportunity for those who think and act like trusted advisors.
In the interview, I share how I got my start and how the Internet has shifted control away from marketers and salespeople. I also describe how today's sales people can add value to the buying process by becoming expert content filters for prospects. This is the key to lead nurturing with a human touch.
What's The Customer Collective? It's a new business outreach community for sales and marketing executives. It was built in collaboration with established media companies like Business Week, ZDNet and BNET. I see it as a social media site (that doesn't focus on social media) but rather looks at real meat and potatoes sales and marketing. We need more sites like this.
March 26, 2008 | Permalink | Comments (5) | TrackBack
Fear not! Think like a savvy investor with lead generation
This morning I was talking to a marketing leader about his 2008 strategy and he brought up some concerns he had about the economy and its potential impact on him and others. Can you blame him?
In years past, marketing has been favorite target for cuts by CFOs and CEOs as they look to conserve cash and reinforce their balance sheets for tough times.
I’m less concerned about budget cuts and more interested in opportunities for him and other B2B marketers who choose to bring focus to their marketing efforts. We have to remember that regardless of the economy, sales people are still expected to perform. I seldom find sales quotas are lowered to fit the news headlines.
If you want to flourish regardless of the economic conditions, you need to look for ways to help your sales team execute and improve performance.
I’m convinced that one of the best ways to do that is to focus on lead generation. Yesterday, I read a Kate Maddox's article in BtoB Magazine, "IDC: Tougher times for tech marketing," which supports that other B2B marketers are doing just that.
Much like a savvy investor who buys when the market is down, smart marketers can capitalize on this opportunity (and beat competitors), by bringing focus and attention to their lead generation efforts.
Maddox’s article highlights IDC's recent tech marketing barometer research. IDC showed that fewer tech marketers are increasing their budgets this year compared to last year. But I think the bigger story is how those dollars are being allocated. Maddox writes, “According to the [IDC] report. Lead generation is the top marketing priority for tech marketers this year…”
According to studies, the single biggest issue for contemporary business-to-business marketers is effective lead generation. Conversely, it has been pointed out that 80% of marketing expenditures on lead generation and collateral are wasted because the leads are ignored by sales people.
For this reason, marketers should direct their budgets away from traditional awareness building campaigns that quickly eat up budget and instead expand and optimize lead generation programs that bring measurable results. Finding better tools and processes for managing the leads or inquires that they already have is also a good investment in a turbulent economy.
You will optimize lead generation immediately if you can honestly answer “yes” to all of the following questions:
• Do sales and marketing agree on what the word “lead” means?
• Are you tracking the conversion rates of leads to sales opportunities?
• Can you/Do you close-the-loop on all leads that are being passed to sales?
• Does your sales team pass back early stage or "cold" leads back for lead nurturing?
You may also want to check out my complementary webinar archive based on the ebook "The One Piece Of Advice You Can't Generate Leads Without" by RainToday titled, “More Is Not Better If You Don't Know How To Nurture”
March 13, 2008 | Permalink | Comments (9) | TrackBack
Why cost-per-lead budgets fail and fewer leads are better
A reader asked me to explain why fewer leads are better and why “cost-per-lead” budgets fail. These are two great questions that have the same fundamental answer: quality first then quantity.
The truth is that sales people care very little about the cost of the leads we generate. What they really care about is how many of those leads will actually become viable sales opportunities.
For this reason, I think cost-per-lead measurements are irrelevant unless we can answer another fundamental question first, “What is our rate of lead acceptance (a.k.a. sales pursuit) into the sales pipeline” and then “What is the cost per opportunity?”
Sadly, I find that a lot of marketers tend focus on cost-per-lead because they really don’t know what happens to their leads after they hand them off to their sales team. This is why closed loop feedback and lead management are so important.
B2B Marketers must start measuring cost-per-opportunity now! Why? It’s the one metric that can help you understand how well your sales team accepts and pursues leads. Ultimately, it shows if your leads are actually helping our sales team sell and if we’re positively contributing to their pipeline.
Lead acceptance into pipeline is primarily a function of lead quality. There are other influences such as sales training and refining the lead handoff process, but lead quality stands out as the single largest factor driving the real ROI of our lead generation programs.
In a cost-per-lead model there is a tendency to drive down the cost of each lead by generating more leads, which is good if the quality does not suffer. However, this is rarely the case since there are a finite number of high quality sales ready leads in your target market at any given time.
The real question is, “Are these leads helping our sales team sell more and will these leads become profitable customers?”
In most cases in order to get more leads to sales (as they demand more leads now!), marketing is forced to send early stage leads, often at the inquiry stage in order to meet quota or cost per lead requirements. Of course, the need for more leads does not come with a commensurate budget increase!
Simply sending more leads over the fence to sales will only result in more early stage leads being lost, ignored or discarded. And if your early stage leads are not being cultivated with lead nurturing and given the attention they need, they will go to waste. Unfortunately in a cost-per-lead scenario this waste will not be measured, rather only your lead production costs.
There is no doubt that a cost focused mindset is a lot different than a value driven mindset. The cost focused mindset often drives decisions that are arbitrary to the objectives of a lead generation program. The most valuable leads are those that your sales team can convert to viable sales opportunities, not just leads that drive more activity.
Pushing more leads and creating more activity can give marketers a false sense of security in the short term, but in the long term the cycle of failed campaigns will continue as past failures are dismissed, overlooked or as fingers are pointed. To break the cycle, we must close the loop with sales and start measuring opportunities.
The following are real-world metrics that every marketer should track in their lead generation program:
- # of inquiries?
- # of leads? (qualified as "sales-ready")
- # of opportunities (leads in moved into sales pipeline)?
- # of closed deals from marketing leads?
If you know those metrics you can start to track the following key performance indicators:
- Inquiry to lead ratio
- Lead to opportunity
- Lead to proposal ratio
- Lead to sale (win) ratio
A value driven mindset requires leaders and marketers to plan and budget for the long term and to take a more holistic view that goes beyond cost-per-lead budgets. Cost-per-lead budgets are irrelevant unless you can first measure cost-per-opportunity or cost-per-lead-pursued and lead quality is a key driver in insuring that those leads are pursued.
What do you think about cost-per-lead budgets or sending fewer high quality leads to sales people?
March 5, 2008 | Permalink | Comments (8) | TrackBack
InTouch Acquired by MECLABS Group, Parent Company of MarketingSherpa and MarketingExperiments
When I started the B2B Lead Generation blog back in 2003, my purpose was to have this blog be a launch pad for practical ideas, not commercials. So that’s why many of you probably don’t know what I do in my day job as CEO of InTouch. But today I’m making an exception.
After a long partnership with MarketingSherpa as a featured speaker and presenter at their B2B marketing summits, we made the decision to be acquired by MECLABS Group, the parent company of MarketingSherpa and MarketingExperiments. Read the press release.
With this acquisition, nothing will change for InTouch clients, future clients, partners and employees. We'll keep our name, our staff, and office in Arden Hills, MN. I along with our executive team will stay intact and we will continue to focus on building the company.
I often talk about the need for a “human touch” in marketing to overcome this age of automation and depersonalization. I fervently believe the only way to drive sales is to feed this need for relationships.
What exactly does InTouch do? We’re a professional B2B contact center that provides clients with the essential human touch required to develop and convert more leads into sales.
At age 24, I started InTouch (then Carroll Communications) back in 1995 out of my apartment living room with a second hand computer and $350 (I’m not kidding). At the time, I hoped to make a living while making a difference with how companies acquire and grow customer relationships through B2B telemarketing.
In 1999, we acquired one of our clients with which we had developed awfully good synergies, iNETech, an IT consulting Services Company specializing in software application development and I gained two great business partners, Pat Lorch and Brandon Stamschror. The new name of the firm, of course, was InTouch.
Since then, our company has been executing lead generation programs designed to profile sales prospects, uncover viable opportunities and create demand. Core services include: teleprospecting, lead qualification, lead nurturing, lead management, and marketing automation tools. Peg Davis over at MarketingExperiments blog wrote a great post that explains more.
That’s why all of us at InTouch are excited about tapping into MarketingSherpa’s practical case studies and know how, and MarketingExperiments’ online laboratory to discover what really works. Together, we can profoundly change the way people think about lead generation for the complex sale.
Plus, now our research for you will be supplemented by the team at MEC Labs Group. They run an actual laboratory facility in Jacksonville Beach, FL, where they conduct live campaign experiments in partnership with folks such as The New York Times and Reuters.
I want to sincerely thank you all of you for reading this blog. I have learned so much from your comments and our conversations. This blog will continue. And I look forward to us learning, doing and sharing together what really works for lead generation for the complex sale.
November 7, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (11) | TrackBack
Lead reengagement gives you more out of your investment
The year-end push is on and I know you may be wondering what else can I do to drive more revenue with little or no remaining budget? I've found the best way is to focus on the leads you already have.
Lead reengagement is one of the most powerful ROI tools marketers have available to them. Why? You're getting more out of the money you've already spent by going deeper within the opportunities you already have. It seems like common sense, but the reality is, I know of very few companies that think about it, because they assume it's the salespeople's job.
That's why I thought you'd find these two articles published this week in BtoB Magazine relevant. They each explain a little known aspect of lead nurturing called lead reengagement.
In the following article, I'm interviewed by BtoB writer Christopher Hosford and share some trends in what he calls lead recycling (I prefer to call it lead reengagement) and I explain what we do at InTouch.
Read Effective Re-Engagement Gives You More Out Of Your Investment
In this article, Hosford interviews my friend and client Mikel Chertudi, senior director, online marketing and demand generation at Omniture. Mikel shares what Omniture is doing to optimize their lead reengagement process and drive more revenue.
Read Omniture Practices What It Preaches
October 10, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (3) | TrackBack
B2B Lead management is far from an easy task
Companies that adopt effective lead management processes generate more revenue from their lead generation investment and have overall higher close rates on marketing generated leads than those that do not. But I've encountered very few companies that really do lead management.
What is lead management? Lead management is a multistage process that manages the conversion of sales leads to customers. Some people say it's the process of going from "first contact to close."
In Christopher Hosford’s BtoB Magazine article, he highlights some of the reasons why "Lead management far from easy task."
The article mainly highlight’s "lead scoring and automation," but that’s only part of the solution. Lead scoring and automation support a process of lead qualification, but I would argue that there are more fundamental aspects of lead management that often get overlooked.
Take a moment and think about your lead management efforts... do you see it as process?
Imagine that your lead management process is a manufacturing operation and your leads are your product. Now imagine that 80% of your product coming off the manufacturing line were defective. In the manufacturing world, where concepts like six sigma are accepted, that kind of defect rate would a blinding sign of a problem (or multiple ones) in the process. Yet, for some reason, in sales and marketing that kind of defect rate is often accepted as normal or acceptable.
There are numerous business process improvement methodologies that have seeped into companies large and small, but for some reason they are not yet as prevalent in the field of sales and marketing.
This may be because much of selling and buying occurs outside a controlled environment making tracking difficult, however a process can be implemented to track milestones and touch points. Lead management provides a framework for controlling and driving that process.
Here are the 6 major stages of an effective lead management:
1. Lead Generation (generating inquiries)
2. Lead Qualification (are they a fit? Are they sales ready?)
3. Lead Nurturing (cultivating early stage leads)
4. Lead Distribution (hand off from marketing to sales)
5. Lead Pursuit (sales process and pipeline)
6. Lead Tracking and reporting (closed the loop between sales and marketing)
Do you have your process for each of these steps documented and understood by key stakeholders? If not, start now. You won't regret it.
To give you a hand, I've updated a figure from Lead Generation for the Complex Sale on lead management. (Click above Image to enlarge or Download PDF)
I believe there are two funnels - a marketing funnel and a sales funnel. The marketing pipeline is managing the customer interactions from first contact through to a viable sales opportunity (aka sales ready lead). The success of your marketing funnel directly impacts that of the sales funnel. The bigger and better your marketing funnel, the bigger and better your sales funnel.
Within the marketing funnel, I find that most marketers need to put more attention on the processes of lead qualification and nurturing.
Here are the top three issues:
- Inquiries are improperly handed off to sales without being qualified.
- A lead nurturing program has not been implemented.
- Sales has not been given the means to hand unsuccessful leads back to marketing for further work or nurturing on their behalf.
Like other business process improvement initiatives, lead management must start with the proper mindset. Lead management is a process that can be documented, measured and refined.
It’s certainly is not easy, so start with the mindset that lead management is a process and make that process as simple a possible. Don’t forget that software does NOT create collaboration. Make sure everyone on in the process has “bought in” and understands their role. Only then will you have the foundation that will support a more complex lead management practices.
Related information:
Here's an in-depth article on lead qualification I wrote for Target Marketing: What’s a Lead?
My recent webinar on multi-touch lead nurturing
September 18, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (6) | TrackBack
MarketingSherpa Demand Generation Summit 2007
You're invited to join me at MarketingSherpa’s Demand Generation Summit at your choice of Boston (Oct 15-16) or San Francisco (Oct 29-30.) I’ll be speaking on “Blogging, Podcasting, Speaking Gigs, & Book Authorship: How to Generate Leads and Measure ROI as an Authority.”
Some of the other topics include: New B-to-B Search Marketing; Maximizing White Papers, Ezines Webinars & Podcasts; Marketing to Fortune 500; Video, Viral & Web 2.0 B-to-B Marketing; How to Measure & Manage Leads and more.
I hope you can make it. Register here
September 4, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack
The One Piece Of Advice You Can't Generate Leads Without

The staff at Raintoday approached a group of B2B lead generation experts with the following question: "What is the one piece of advice you simply cannot generate leads without?"
The result was a special 36-page report with 10 all-new articles (mine included) aptly named "The One Piece Of Advice You Can't Generate Leads Without." I think you'll find it valuable.
The expert authors and advice includes:
- Trash Talk And Delete Buttons: A Candid Letter From Your Prospective Client
Jill Konrath, author of Selling to Big Companies - More Is Not Better If You Don't Know How To Nurture
Brian Carroll, CEO of InTouch Inc and author of Lead Generation for the Complex Sale - Find Out What Your Sales Team Considers A Lead
Stefan Tornquist, Research Director & Sean Donahue, Senior Reporter, MarketingSherpa - If You Can't Measure It, Don't Do It
Suzanne Lowe, President of Expertise Marketing and author of Marketplace Masters - Automate Lead Nurturing To Increase Lead Generation Effectiveness
Laura Ramos, Vice President of Forrester's Marketing Strategy and Technology Team - Generating Leads By Finding Buyers In Trouble
Larry Bodine, Owner-Operator of LawMarketing Portal and Larry Bodine Marketing - Tales To Keep Them Talking
Ardath Albee, B2B Marketing Strategist, Marketing Interactions - Promising Prospect - Or Dead End? Start By Defining A Lead
Roy Young, President with Ann Handley, Chief Content Officer, MarketingProfs - All Sound And Fury, Signifying Nothing: Executing Your Lead Generation Plan
Mike Schultz, Publisher, RainToday.com and Principal, Wellesley Hills Group - B2B Sales Lead Success Checklist
M.H. (Mac) McIntosh, B2B Marketing Consultant, The B2B Sales Lead Experts
August 30, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack
7 Tips to Improve Sales Follow-up & Close More Leads
If you are like most B2B marketers, lead generation is at top of your priority list. But as you may already know, generating tons of “leads” doesn’t guarantee sales will follow.
Does the sales team either ignore your hard-won leads or complain about their quality? Do you ever wonder was the lead even contacted? If so, what’s the status? Could you have helped move it along by going deeper in the sales cycle?
This chronic lack of visibility has a snowball effect of making it challenging for marketers to measure their effectiveness and understand their return on marketing investment (ROMI). So what can be done about it?
Here's 7 Tips to Improve Sales Follow-up
- Get buy in from sales team on your "sales ready" lead definition
- Provide qualification information for each sales lead
- Qualify and Distribute sales ready leads immediately
- Communicate hand off to sales person
- Measure sales pursuit - If lead not followed up it will be pulled / reassigned
- Regularly close the loop -what gets measured gets done
- Sales management must also audit and track rep follow-up
How often do you close the loop? I’ve found the most powerful way to improve sales follow-up on marketing generated leads is doing more frequent sales and marketing huddles.
Read Collaboration Huddles and 35 Other Ways to Improve Sales and Marketing Teamwork
Finally, if you’re using these tips already and still feel that your marketing and sales teams are working against each other instead of being on the same team, you could have some challenges with office politics read on.
MarketingSherpa just published an interview with Marketo CEO Phil Fernandez from a marketing view point and Barry Trailer, Co-Founder, CSO Insights who brings a sales perspective. Together Phil and Barry share seven other strategies to get both sides talking including how to:
- Model the sales/marketing funnel
- Develop a common vocabulary
- Create a closed-loop reporting process
MarketingSherpa: Overcoming Office Politics - 7 Strategies to Generate & Close More Leads.
Related posts:
Closed Loop Feedback: The Missing Lead Generation Huddle
Closed-Loop Marketers More Likely to Reach ROMI Goals
Podcast: Using Closed Loop Feedback to Boost Lead Generation ROI
August 1, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (3) | TrackBack
Inquiry management and search marketing strategy
BtoB Magazine's Carol Krol interviewed Kevin Lee, executive chairman of Did-it Search Marketing on "Effective Search Strategies." I first met Kevin as a fellow speaker at MarketingSherpa's first Lead Generation Summit.
I liked what Kevin had to say when Krol asked him this question, "What are the top three things a marketer should be wary of when evaluating a search marketing strategy?" I think Kevin's points serve as a good reminder for web inquiry management.
I've summarized Kevin's three points:
- Don’t be too Web myopic. Don’t focus exclusively on Web-based leads because typically in a b-to-b environment, a prospect may choose to communicate with your company by telephone or some other channel.
- All leads are not created equal. This is true offline and online. Don't oversimplify. Qualify the leads first.
- The velocity of inquiry follow-up matters. Your response time say's more about you then you realize. If your competition takes 24 hours to respond and it takes you days to respond, you’re in big trouble. And don't just send a canned response either.
BtoB Magazine: Effective search strategies
July 16, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (2) | TrackBack
Early Stage Leads are too important for Sales People Alone
The management of sales leads is critical to generating Return on Marketing Investment. Sadly, sales leads often land on the scrap heap because marketers throw leads over the wall and then expect sales people to catch them.
Last year, I linked to a David Meerman Scott's post, Sales Leads Are Too Valuable For Sales People Alone. He just wrote (round two) and I think it's worth checking out.
David writes, "...Salespeople may argue with me, but I think it is better at the early stages of the buying process NOT to pass names to sales unless the buyer is absolutely ready to move forward..."
I agree. The key is to match readiness of the buyer with expectations of your sales team. Otherwise you'll have a serious disconnect. You need to examine each lead ask if they are "sales ready" meaning they are ready to speak to a sales person.
Often when prospects have an identified need, they can spend months researching and seeking information on solutions that may satisfy that need. They are seeking education and information but would rather not talk to a sales person yet. This is why I think marketers should hold back and nurture early stage leads (with a human touch) on behalf of their sales team.
The goal of lead nurturing is to maintain a relevant and consistent dialog with viable leads - regardless of their timing to purchase - until they are sales ready. A key aspect of lead nurturing is the ability to provide valuable education and information to prospects up front, so that you become more than an expert; you become a trusted advisor.
Lead nurturing is a multi-touch process. Without lead nurturing program in place, I've found that early stage leads receive just 1 or maybe 2 touches before they are handed off to sales people. And that's not enough, especially if you have a complex sale. At InTouch, we’ve found early stage leads may require 8 to 12 (or more) meaningful nurturing touches before they are truly sales ready.
In cases where your experience tells you that a lead is sales-ready, or would best be in the hands of a salesperson, you should create an exception code or status. I recommend asking the following question, “Can marketing continue to nurture this opportunity until they are more sales-ready or is this a situation best handled by a salesperson?” This is why communication and cooperation between sales and marketing is so important.
July 9, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (12) | TrackBack
Podcast: Interview with MarketingSherpa's Anne Holland
Would you like some inspiration or some fresh ideas for your marketing and lead generation strategy?
If so, MarketingSherpa just released their “Business Technology Marketing Benchmark Guide 2007-08” and I had the privilege to interview Anne Holland about this year's findings. Very useful stuff. Download the Executive Summary
During our in-depth interview, Anne shares some terrific insights and helpful data on numerous marketing and lead generation tactics.
Three data points that I found particularity interesting:
1. Teleprospecting works. As we all know, tech buyers are a notoriously tough crowd to cold call. Sherpa's findings contradict the "calling doesn't work" line we've heard for years. Their data shows that over 50% of tech buyers admitted to short listing a vendor after receiving a well timed and relevant phone call.
2. Sherpa's data shows that more decision makers (not just influencers) are attending webinars and watching archived events. This indicates the importance of relevant educational events and online content for lead generation.
3. Companies who provided fewer but higher quality "sales ready" leads to their sale people have better sales conversion rates than those that send lots of early stage leads and that creating a "cost per lead" culture just does not work.

Listen to podcast now (31 min MP3)
Show Agenda
- Benchmark data that B2B all marketers must know
- Fresh ideas and best practices for lead qualification
- Why you should capture and track all web inquiries in your CRM
- How many buyers/influencers in the typical F500 buying process (hint: it's big!)
- Sherpa's unexpected data on B2B telemarketing (teleprospecting)
- Useful data on lead management and lead nurturing
- How webinars are reaching more decision makers than you would expect
- Common email mistakes (and why mobile devices matter more than you think)
- How and why high quality content is important and influential to buyers
- Why fewer leads is better (the CEOs role) and why "cost per lead" budgets fail
- Distinguishing characteristics of top performing marketers
- Unconventional research that will improve your corporate website homepage
The Business Technology Benchmark Marketing Guide features data on numerous marketing and lead generation tactics especially valuable. They also have practical data on search, email, PR, direct mail, lead generation, trade shows, podcasting, telemarketing, budgeting and more. They interviewed over 1000 marketers, plus this year they gathered in-depth research from 4,658 actual business technology buyers.
If you are a marketer for a company that sells technology, I encourage you to get a copy of this report. It will definitely help you better budget, forecast, and benchmark your marketing results.
MarketingSherpa: Business Technology Marketing Benchmark Guide 2007-08
June 29, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (5) | TrackBack
10 Lead Generation (Prospecting) Tips for Sales People
Sales people often lack the support of a dedicated marketing team that is able to execute lead generation programs on their behalf. This is particularity true in small companies.
Still, those sales people succeed in spite of it all. They must, in one way or another, generate their own leads to meet their revenue and sales targets that’s independent of corporate marketing programs.
In fact, they may be obligated as a part of their role to develop and execute localized lead generation programs. And instead of calling it lead generation, sales people will probably call it prospecting.
All of which means investment of time and proficiencies frequently beyond their realm, and sooner or later, one way or another, there must be a shift from prospecting back to selling.
In lead generation, the job of the marketing department is to develop leads to match the buyer’s readiness to buy and the seller’s expectations of selling. Marketing to sales: “We get the leads, you get the sales.”
Nevertheless, there are some organizations that for various reasons still place the responsibility of lead creation with the sales sector. While I disagree that this is the most effective way to generate leads, it’s important to note that the tenets offered in this post can be just as valuable to sales people doing their own personal lead generation as it to a dedicated marketing team.
Here are a few tips that I often share with sales people who are doing their own lead generation.
1. Build an ideal customer profile – Focus your energy on leads that best fit your ideal customer profile. Both the companies and the individuals you covet as customers. What separates your best and worst customers? What are their attributes and demographics? What organizations/associations do they belong to?
2. Talk to your best customers – How much do you really know about your customers? A simple phone call can generate plenty of useful information. Ask your customers why they chose to work with you? Is that the same reason they keep doing business with you? How has working with you helped their business? Would they refer you to other people? Use this information to refine your message to identify more leads just like your best customers. Once you understand why clients chose your products or service you can tailor your message around the needs you solve.
3. Build your personal prospecting engine - Leverage these activities by communicating with your prospects, customers, networks and alliance partners in a consistent manner by using traditional direct marketing methods such as direct mail, phone calls, personal publicity, and email campaigns.
4. Develop a lead generation calendar - Map out your activities for each month and then really follow it! And don’t just make irrelevant pitches more often! Create a plan to add value every time you touch your future customers with relevant ideas, content and resources.
5. Act like a good financial manager - Your lead generation efforts should include a portfolio of tactics that you apply consistently over time. You're not in it for the big hit. You’re investing in planting seeds that will eventually grow into relationships.
6. Define your goals for lead generation – Be clear on what you want. Do you want 200 more leads in your database? Do you want to generate $600K in new business in revenue this year? Do you want to add 26 new customers this quarter?
7. Rigorously qualify - Every sales opportunity to make sure they fit your ideal client/customer profile before you starts to develop a proposal or agree to do work.
8. Be consistent - Remember the fable about the tortoise and the hare? Dig your well before you’re thirsty. No matter how busy you are, be sure to make time to do personal lead generation activities especially, if you don’t have a marketing team supporting you.
9. Develop a lead nurturing plan – While you may generate leads from your initial campaign, you will generate more by following up with additional touches just be sure that are meaningful and relevant to your audience.
10. Develop and maintain your own database – Even the best lists are not 100% accurate. During the planning phase you should make sure your list fits your ideal customer profile. Also, don’t create the biggest database possible. Instead, seek to create the most relevant database possible which contains the right companies and contacts that influence the buying decision. In the beginning, you won’t have all the data you need. Be patient and you'll build the opportunity profile over time.
May 21, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (7) | TrackBack
Collaboration Huddles and 35 Other Ways to Improve Sales and Marketing Teamwork
I just got back from speaking at the New Marketing Summit and it was great. But it seems that I can’t attend a marketing conference with out hearing marketers swap complaints about their sales teams.
I don’t know about you but I’m fed up with the same old story. Companies continue to waste millions of dollars because of poor teamwork and collaboration between marketing and sales.
Even the very best lead generation program cannot compensate for poor teamwork and collaboration, but unfortunately we continue hear about it time and again.
Sales and marketing often believe they are working together but collaboration takes more than annual or even quarterly planning meetings. Teamwork is something that must exist in a very real way each day.
I’ve found the most powerful way to foster teamwork and collaboration is to do more frequent and effective meetings. At InTouch we call them “huddles." We have short huddles daily and weekly between the marketing and sales team.
In our huddles we do three things: Talk. Understand. Execute. (Repeat again) Talk. Understand. Execute. (Repeat again) Talk. Understand. Execute. Okay got it? (Repeat again).
In addition to huddles, there are other ways that sales and marketing can and should collaborate together. This is just one list of 35 possibilities that we’ve tackled in our huddles and I hope you’ll add your own too.
During huddles, you can brainstorm, go over marketing and sales programs, and accomplish or think about any or all of the things on the list below:
- Get feedback from the sales team – look at the conversion process and have regular face-to-face meetings or conference calls. Where is your sales team getting stuck?
- Seek to understand if the sales team is at capacity. Don’t generate more leads if they are focused on closing deals. Support them with nurturing.
- Encourage sales people to follow-up on leads and hold them accountable, while still treating them like customers…ask them what they need.
- Develop a strategic lead generation and growth plan between sales and marketing.
- Marketing and sales can work together on standardizing and documenting their lead generation and sales process so that what is happening can be easily tracked and measured.
- Develop a marketing program that helps the sales team sell at a personal level.
- Train your sales people on how to optimize your lead generation investment and give your feedback.
- Centralize the lead qualification process.
- Use your huddles to introduce new sales people to the marketing team.
- Share lead generation best practices amongst the sales team.
- Assign revenue goals to your joint sales and marketing plan.
- Be flexible in your planning, so that you can adapt to changing requirements.
- Lead generation must be promoted from the top down and bottom up.
- Develop a culture that values leads by creating a universal lead definition.
- Get the marketing team out in the field with the sales team regularly.
- Arrange your compensation so there’s a shared accountability around lead generation.
- Remember what Steven Covey say’s, “seek first to understand. Then be understood.”
- Close-the-loop on each sales lead being generated.
- See that marketing takes over as many of the non-selling tasks as possible.
- Integrate sales and marketing activity by using the same database or CRM system.
- Define and map out the responsibilities shared by both sales and marketing.
- Share details about upcoming, events, articles, and press coverage.
- Go over the upcoming lead generation program strategy and what the outcomes of that strategy are expected to be.
- Mutually share new insights gained from customer feedback.
- Share effectiveness measurements from recent lead generation activities.
- Jointly develop message map and value proposition for you lead generation program.
- Ask, what have you learned from the leads? Are there changes in hot topics for your target audience?
- Discuss common concerns raised by potential customers and how the sales team is addressing them and develop solutions together.
- Do your lead generation messaging align with your target audiences needs?
- Analyze competitive information, and develop a SWOT (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats)
- Improve relevance of sales tools and marketing materials with sales input.
- Map out your customer’s decision and buying process and then map out your value proposition for each role involved in the buying process.
- Determine an answer to the question: What is the life cycle of a lead?
- Strategic accounts: Can you develop content and lead generation events with your existing customers as references (ambassadors) to your audience?
- Define your expertise: how can you demonstrate your ability to solve business problems and share new ideas?
I’m wondering what you do in your company to foster better sales and marketing collaboration? Please share your thoughts and comments. Who knows? Your comments could be included in my next book.
May 18, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (5) | TrackBack
How Lead Nurturing Improves Lead Generation ROI
I know there's a lot of emphasis on lead generation (that's a good thing) but, getting a ton of leads doesn't guarantee that increased sales will follow. In a complex sale, my experience is, most of the selling actually happens when the sales person isn't there.
Startling as it may seem, recent research (and even studies from ten years ago) shows that longer-term leads (future opportunities), often ignored by salespeople, represent almost 80% of potential sales. You can increase your odds success by adding a lead nurturing program.
What’s lead nurturing? Lead nurturing is all about having consistent and meaningful communication with viable prospects (those that are “a fit” for your solution) regardless of their timing to buy. It’s not “following-up” every few months to find out if a prospect is “ready to buy yet?” Lead nurturing about building trusted relationships with the right people.
Continue Reading at the INSPIRE SmartMarketers.com Blog (a new blog I'm contributing to monthly) presented by Netline.
On June 6th, I’m doing a webcast on a multimodal approach to lead nurturing as part of ON24's Wednesday Webcast with Experts Series. I hope you can make it. Register here.
May 9, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (3) | TrackBack
On B2B Demand Generation tools and Lead Generation Dashboards
CEOs continue to demand better ROI measurement and accountability from marketers.
As a result there’s been a surge of interest in software and tools to manage the process of lead management, lead nurturing and lead generation with a greater emphasis on measurability.
In 2005, I wrote a post predicting that lead generation dashboards would become a hot topic and according to the CMO Council's 2007 Outlook Report the time for marketing performance dashboards is now.
The report states, "Seventy-five percent of respondents from companies with revenues of more than $500 million plan to deploy a marketing performance measurement dashboard this year, almost twice the number who will invest in the next highest category of system deployment, which is lead generation and qualification. Marketers from smaller companies said lead generation and qualification and email campaign management would be their two top areas of system or service deployment."
Additionally a MarketingProfs article from last week, “B2B Demand Generation in the Age of Accountability, Measurability, and Automation” by Mike Zavershnik of Eloqua emphasizes how, “new marketing automation systems delivered as a service enable marketers to quickly scale their most successful campaigns to drive a larger flow of qualified leads.”
With that said, I think it is important to remember that buying lead management software and dashboards tools is akin to buying a high performance stock car. Without a skilled and knowledgeable driver behind the wheel, you may never get out of first gear no matter how great the car is.
All to often companies invest in expensive software before they fully understand the fundamental operational processes that it will be supporting. This is a common theme in sales and marketing automation, CRM implementation being another good example.
To develop a world class demand generation and lead management operation you’ll need three things:
- Enough of the right people to support the process
- A well thought out process to support the people
- And finally, the right tools and systems to help people manage the process
I think that most sales and marketing professionals recognize that software will not spontaneously generate results, but the allure of easy execution and fast results are difficult to resist. It’s also easy to forget that these systems require a great deal of hands on input and maintenance to be fully appreciated.
Yes, lead management software and dashboard tools are hot now because pressure for more measurable ROI is greater that ever and these tools can help you, but make sure you take a more holistic approach.
Start by understanding your lead generation requirements and design a suitable process to support it and insert the software into the process where it will be most effective and actually used. Most importantly, don’t under estimate the need for a dedicated team of people that will drive the process and make the inputs into the system.
If we continue to follow this line of thought it's logical then to ask yourself if the metrics you are getting back out of the system are telling you that you’re getting better?
This morning I talked with Jim Berkowitz, who writes the CRM Mastery E-Journal. When I told him about this post he replied, “With dashboards, nobody ever seems to talk about having the right metrics that help you measure if you’re improving…” I agree.
Most marketing metrics are like driving a car by looking in the rear view mirror (yes, another car analogy!). They tell you where you've been but they can't tell you where you’re going. Ouch! So are you using metrics that actually help you look forward?
I think companies will continue to buy the promise of these tools even though they lack the resources to actually leverage them. What do you think?
April 18, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (7) | TrackBack
Now Announcing the "Start With A Lead" Podcast Show
I am pleased to announce that I'll be hosting a new podcast show called "Start with a Lead" debuting in April.
The show will have content specifically for marketers and those who care about B2B lead generation, sales leads, and marketing strategies focused on the complex sale.
In the show, you’ll hear from thought leading experts on a variety of marketing and lead generation topics. You'll get the latest tips and strategies; and learn what really works and what doesn't to generate high quality leads in the complex sale.
Why a new show? Over the past few years, I’ve experimented with podcasting, (you can see my old podcast here) but now like Emeril, I’m ready to 'kick it up a notch’ and apply what I’ve learned from experience and listener feedback.
Also, I’m going to “open the phone lines” to listeners who’d like to ask questions in advance of the show so we can be more interactive and get your specific questions answered. I’m looking forward to learning with you as I interview leading experts (and ask your questions) to get the latest contemporary thinking on lead generation. Stay tuned!
March 30, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack
Webcast: How to Precisely Define a "Lead" Before Marketing Begins
If you are like most B2B marketers, lead generation is at top of your priority list. But as you may already know, generating tons of "leads" doesn’t guarantee sales will follow.
Does the sales department either ignore your hard-won leads or complain about their quality? Your problem is partly solved if you can get company-wide approval for a clear definition of what a qualified lead is prior to launching your campaign.
Watch my complimentary webcast on, "How to Precisely Define a Lead Before Marketing Begins."
In this session you'll learn:
- What works to develop an ideal customer profile
- How to handle the politics around lead definition
- What's a reasonable definition for a "hot" lead
- How to create a lead profile with useful details far beyond "whoever will buy our stuff"
- What must done to ensure your lead definition remains on target
- 9 Proven ways to get sales team to follow-up
See my other upcoming events here.
Thank you to ON24 Inc. a for sponsoring this event as part of their new Wednesday Webcast with Experts series.
March 6, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (7) | TrackBack
Going beyond the sales lead
Ultimately, the purpose of B2B marketing is to help the sales team sell. But marketers often get so wrapped up in driving activity that they seem to forget it's about driving sales conversion.
For example, ask most executives and marketers what sales people need and they will say, "more leads." Your sales people don’t want more leads actually, what they want is "more effective selling time." It's not about more activity. It's about helping the sales team achieve better results.
After working with hundreds of sales people and seeing their sales processes first hand, I frequently hear this "stuck point." They often ask, “How do I advance the lead when there isn’t an immediate need?” Sales people are often stuck wondering, “What else can I talk to them about?”
With out your input, sales people often resort to boring or irrelevant messaging that don't position them as trusted advisors. Phone calls such as, “I’m just calling to touch base” or emails that say, “I’m just checking in…” are like saying “Are you ready to buy yet?” This is not because they lack creatively, it a simple matter of time or perspective. Sales people need to spend their time selling, not building content and messaging.
With or without your knowledge, sales reps are altering your messaging and creating their own collateral. Remember: The first impression matters. So does the second. So does every single touch after that. This is especially true with complex sales that require multiple conversations on the phone before you may get your first face to face meeting in the later stages of their buying process.
B2B marketers need to do more for their sales team than just throwing leads over the wall. If marketing wants to view sales as their customer, they need to be much more involved from the customer's perspective to understand their buying process and go beyond the lead. This is an opportunity for marketing leaders to shine.
To do this you need to be thinking strategically, which involves getting more than one perspective. That means that sales must provide input to marketing (and marketing needs to accept and value the input) on the development of things such as sales collateral, white papers, case studies, articles, advertising, e-mail campaigns, value proposition development etc. as a joint team. It also means getting out in the field with your team to really understand how you can help them sell.
If you go beyond the lead, you’ll generate much greater return from your lead generation investment and you’ll be doing what you’re meant to do… help the sales team sell.
Here's 9 ideas to help you go beyond the lead:
- Build a library of selling and nurturing content specifically designed for you sales team. (The content does not have to be flashy, just relevant.)
- Make the content library easily accessible.
- Use the phone to qualify all inquiries before sending them to the sales team.
- Establish a clear process for handling and distributing leads.
- Leverage your CRM system to create a lead management process.
- Distribute leads rapidly.
- Expect your sales team to follow up on each lead promptly.
- Measure sales lead acceptance and follow up by sales team.
- Close the loop with your sales team regularly.
March 2, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (5) | TrackBack
Podcast: Use Feedback to Boost Lead Generation
Ever feel like the results of your lead generation efforts aren't being fully utilized? You’re not alone. Without a solid process in place an astonishing eighty percent of marketing expenditures on lead generation are wasted because the leads are lost, ignored or discarded by sales. But there are steps you can take to improve lead acceptance and generate better ROI.
I was recently interviewed for a story by Marketing2IT's Ginna Hall on the subject of "Closed loop feedback" which is a vital to improving any lead generation program.
Agenda
- Why closed loop feedback is so important to lead generation.
- The best way to gather feedback.
- Who needs to be involved.
- Who owns the feedback process: marketing or sales?
- Three obstacles and how you can avoid them.

Listen to podcast now (MP3 16:55 min 5.5 MB)
January 24, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (2) | TrackBack
Podcast: What Sales Really Needs From Marketing
John Jantsch, small business marketing expert and author of Duct Tape Marketing recently interviewed me and sales expert Jill Konrath, author of Selling to Big Companies about what sales really needs from marketing.
This podcast was conducted for the marketing alliance partners for Sage Software, makers of ACT!, Peachtree and SageCRM software. John originally hoped that Jill and I would debate or lock horns (Jill from the sales viewpoint and me from the marketing viewpoint). Instead, we could almost finish each others sentences : )
This is one of my favorite podcasts. I share more ideas on what marketing can do to create and nurture leads before handing them off to the sales force.

Listen to podcast now (MP3 60 min 45 MB)
P.S. I just read John Jantsch's new book, Duct Tape Marketing. If you're a small business owner (or plan to be one in the future) you'll want to put this book on your reading list. It’s great. If you decide to get a copy, you should check out his bonus offers. I'll be posting my Amazon review soon.
January 23, 2007 | Permalink | Comments (2) | TrackBack
Target Marketing: What’s a Lead?

Many marketers believe generating more sales leads is the key to hitting revenue targets. That’s not always true. In fact, most companies need to do a better job managing and qualifying the leads (or more likely the inquiries) they already have.
In this month’s issue of Target Marketing, I wrote the cover article on "What’s a Lead?" There, I offer the most important steps that marketing and sales alike, need to take to end their “tug of war” to improve ROI.
The 5 steps of successful lead qualification are:
- Define and Agree On What the Word “Lead” Means
- Consolidate and Centralize Your Prospect Information
- Pick up the Phone and Qualify Prospective Leads
- Handing Off Leads to Sales
- Closing the Loop
The first step in the process requires marketing and sales to come up with a definition for a lead together. This article also emphasizes the critical role that the (often overlooked) phone plays in the lead qualification process.
Read Target Marketing: What’s a Lead?
November 1, 2006 | Permalink | Comments (3) | TrackBack
Lead qualification and scoring for better leads
The biggest mistake made by marketers is to give mere inquiries to a salesperson. When inquiries are handed off without being methodically qualified, it doesn’t take the sales department long to start viewing all marketing-generated “leads” with skepticism. For this reason, most leads sent from marketing to the sales organization are lost, ignored, or discarded.
Are you currently sending your sales team qualified leads or merely inquiries? There is a difference. An inquiry is an interested party who has requested information and needs some level of assistance. But inquiries are not leads. A lead isn’t a lead until it’s been qualified.
I was happy to participate in a Lead Scoring & Management Roundtable organized by MarketingSherpa. They posed 10 of the toughest questions B-to-B marketers often ask them about qualifying and scoring leads.
MarketingSherpa: Lead Scoring & Management Roundtable Report
Related post: Disciplined Lead Qualification Improves Sales Performance
October 20, 2006 | Permalink | Comments (2) | TrackBack




